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    So Im welding sheet metal (22 Ga.) on my Millermatic 211 and I am using .030 wire on the autoset. My issue is I really cant make a decent bead without possibly blowing through. It works sometimes, but others its a no-go.

    So my question is....


    When should I use .023?
    New Tig welder
    Dynasty 200DX
    MillerMatic 211

  • #2
    Now would be a good time for .023 on 22 ga. I welded miles of it when i was a sheetmetal worker...Bob
    Bob Wright

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    • #3
      Thanks for the info. What are some of the issues with using too large a wire?

      I know lots of build up. What else?
      New Tig welder
      Dynasty 200DX
      MillerMatic 211

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      • #4
        thicker wire means more heat to burn it, so that's why you are burning through the metal. in autobody work for example, deals with thin gauge metals, so it is recommended for .023" wire.

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        • #5
          Is it possible to use / switch to this? It doesn’t show it in this link, but you can get it in .023.

          http://www.wisconsinwireworks.com/silicon_bronze.htm
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          These are "my" views based only on “my” experiences in “my” little bitty world.

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          • #6
            Silicon-Bronze

            Originally posted by Sonora Iron View Post
            Is it possible to use / switch to this? It doesn’t show it in this link, but you can get it in .023.

            http://www.wisconsinwireworks.com/silicon_bronze.htm
            Sonora: Looks like a 30# spool, he's got as MM 211, won't fit.

            Dave
            "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
              Sonora: Looks like a 30# spool, he's got as MM 211, won't fit.

              Dave
              More than one way to skin a cat!
              Improvise!
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              • #8
                if you are having problems with blowout on straight runs flaten an old piece of copper pipe and clamp it to the back of the metal. This does many things. It acts as a heat sink so there is less of a chance of melting though the metal. It also provides a backer so if you do melt though the matirial it will fill in holes as you go or if nesasary you can come back though and make a few plug welds to fill in the holes
                This is an automotive discussion forum that has some great infromation

                www.autobodytoolmart.com/shoptalk

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                • #9
                  stop

                  all i do with my old 200 with 035 is to just stop for a split second, let cool and restart in the puddle you left, its still hot enough for the wire to be (, i quess soft is possibly the right word to explain why) restarted, if this is a nuisance the gentleman that suggested copper is right on, i use aluminum, only because i have plenty, what i was taught by an oltimer was to move that arc around and stop and start when needed. ive been taught to weld hot and fight to keep it from burning up, dont know if that is ok but it helped me very much, 023 is a better choice, but we dont always live in the perfect world

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                  • #10
                    "Backlash on a Zebco"

                    Originally posted by Sonora Iron View Post
                    More than one way to skin a cat!
                    Improvise!
                    .023 in a 10# spool, cool!
                    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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                    • #11
                      Thin stuff?

                      Only8v,
                      if you're even thinking of grinding those welds flush after,go to Praxair or Linde and order yourself a roll of Esab "Spoolarc Easy Grind".This stuff is made for body work and such.It wears its name well so you dont damage around your welds with the grinder.And yes it is ER70-S6.

                      Frank
                      Last edited by Frank Motoweld; 06-19-2009, 06:05 PM.
                      Millermatic 252
                      Millermatic 180
                      Dynasty 200DX
                      Hobart spoolmate 3035
                      Digital Elite

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the info- i have to get gas this week so I will def. check that out! does the .032/.024/.025 thing make that much of a difference? I think my 211 has .024
                        New Tig welder
                        Dynasty 200DX
                        MillerMatic 211

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by onlyn8v View Post
                          Thanks for the info- i have to get gas this week so I will def. check that out! does the .032/.024/.025 thing make that much of a difference? I think my 211 has .024
                          Hello; .023, .024, .025 are for all intents and purposes the Same Thing !!

                          ................ Norm
                          - Arcair- K 4000 CAC.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nfinch86 View Post
                            Hello; .023, .024, .025 are for all intents and purposes the Same Thing !!

                            ................ Norm
                            I have never run these sizes of wire, just .023. I know I can sure tell the difference between .030, and .035. Then a huge jump from .035 to .045! Then a gargantuan jump from .045 to 3/32 Innershield, or 7/64 dual shield!
                            Caution!
                            These are "my" views based only on “my” experiences in “my” little bitty world.

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                            • #15
                              I love running the .045 it spools out easier than the .035 and the wind tunnel technology fan sounds really cool when your laying it down.

                              I think I'm going to change the gas mix on the next bottle and pulse me some steel..
                              Steve

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