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    Hello everyone!! I am new here but have been lurking for awhile. Anyways i am starting a moble welding service and have two options as far as a rig is concerned. The first is just using my daily driven Ford F-350, installing my Trailblazer 302 (ordering it next week) in the box, buying side boxes, and building a headache rack to hold cylinerds Ect. Ect. Or out fit my 40ft floor 45ft overall length enclosed tripple axel car trailer into a rig, and adding a living corters in the front?

    I just bought a Dynasty 200dx tigrunner and have most everthing else i think i could need, but dont have a clue what i should carry with me?? What i am asking for i guess is a "must have list" of tools and equipment that i might overlook ?? Thanks

  • #2
    carry one of everything you have.(or two)
    there is nothing worse than being on a job, and not having what you need to finish
    my daddy always said i was IRONHEADED....
    feel free to P/M me

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    • #3
      I guess it depends what sort of welding you plan on doing mobile. Personally I'd vote for the F350. A 45'long trailer would be too much to drag around just to go fix a piece of equipment or a fence. It would give you one hel of a shop on wheels however.

      If funds permitted I would look at a nice used vehicle. I see dozens of used utility bodies and DRW PU's for sale now that the economy has turned bad. Guys are working out of their personal vehicles, or dumping the "extra" truck as funds have gotten tight. Wish I could have waited 6 more months to by mine.

      Tools, well again what sort of welding?
      If I do a fence or railings I could see the hammer drill or diamond core drill. Don't need that if you do heavy equipment work. I do agree carry as much as you can for what you do. I got an 11' utility body and some days wished I had gotten the 14' one I looked at, so I have more space for stuff. Other days the long truck is a PITA to get into places and I'm glad I didn't go bigger.

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      • #4
        Truck or Trailer?

        Hotrod: Bassed on your username, you seem to have interests in car building. Do you plan on "hanging out" in the infield at Knoxville, or mending a fence in Calhoun County? An enclosed 45' trailer would make a nice shop on wheels for the USAC and OutLaw boys, but might get stuck in the mud along a fence row. Ever notice how the Pipeliner Rigs are "short" wheelbase trucks? That's for manuveralbility and articulating diverse terrain.

        It's really what you want to do, and what type of work you expect to do. Tying up your truck will park your trailer for a while, but when you need to go, you're just an ignition switch away.

        Oh, one can NEVER have enough tools!

        Hope this helps, good luck, post some pics...

        Dave
        Last edited by davedarragh; 02-17-2009, 07:06 PM.
        "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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        • #5
          The trailer idea was so that if I took a job that payed perdeium i could live out of that and not waste it on a motel, also so i could carry more stuff and possibly set up a "glove box" inside. The sprint car guys really don't seem interested in track side service they all tell me hobby stocks would be. The tough thing about that is getting permission from the track to weld on-site most will not let you. I used to subcontract work on concept cars in Detroit but that is almost gone, and the hotrod market is so bad that i cant see how those guys are making it. The idea for my truck was to put the trailblazer in the front of the box and build a tailgate style door out the side with a rack to where i could pull it out of the side of the box partially to have easy access to the front panel and to increase air flow to it. How do most of you guys fasten down you cylinders? What is the law on that? I know there are only certain ways that you can "legally" Carry them. About the tools i am new to working on job sites and i was just wanting to know about things i might over look bringing or buying to take with me, like do you guys have portable rod ovens,mag drills, how many collets for example is enough?? I am just getting started so any and all advise is good advise. Thanks

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          • #6
            I guess I just dont really know wich way I am headed yet because i am still working a everyday job,

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            • #7
              Partial list. 75 or 100ft ground & stinger cables. 100 ft extension cord, 7" & 4.5" grinders, some chains & come-a-longs, misc. jacking equip or porta-power, cutting torch with rosebud, large & small hammers, pry bars, plenty of clamps, lots of hand tools (sockets wrenches etc), air compressor with carbon arc torch, several tape measures, straight edge, chalk line. The list goes on & on but should be tailored for the type of work you plan on doing. I've always found that the more tools you carry the more you can do & the more work you will get.
              MM250
              Trailblazer 250g
              22a feeder
              Lincoln ac/dc 225
              Victor O/A
              MM200 black face
              Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
              Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
              Arco roto-phase model M
              Vectrax 7x12 band saw
              Miller spectrum 875
              30a spoolgun w/wc-24
              Syncrowave 250
              RCCS-14

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              • #8
                great question: I've been in the situation the last year. i got a 7.5 X 14 foot trailer and realized that it was to small to fit my race quad so i sold that and got a good deal on a 8.5 x20 foot and now i think it's to much for my welding trailer so i just use it for my quads and storage. and put my welder in my truck. but I'd love to get a 12 foot box truck to run my welding biz out of. you'll have to decide what your going after for jobs if your going to weld structural the truck is the way to go. (welder, leads, wire feeder, rod ) miscellaneous welding. two of every and all the stuff you can carry.
                TB 325
                TB 302
                dynasty 200sd
                spoolmatic 30a/wc24
                suitcase x-treme 12vs
                miller 211
                evolution rage 2

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                • #9
                  Cylinder Brackets

                  Hotrod: Anchor Mfg. makes some real nice cylinder brackets that are OSHA approved. It's always best to have your rig fitted to conformity, you never know who's going to be on a job site. Tower Mountain Products make "Tank Vises" for storage or horizontal transport. Inert gases can be hauled layed down. Acetylene should be stored and transported vertically. Oxygen, might as well stand it up next to the acetylene.

                  Regardless what you decide to outfit, keep in mind, the various safety "watch dogs," and codes: OSHA, MSHA, CGA & RMA Standards, ANSI, NIOSH, the list goes on.

                  It may be as something as "insignificant" as not wearing a "safety vest," and you could be cited for a safety violation,or worse yet, "booted" (steel toed) from a job.

                  Hope this helps

                  Dave
                  "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
                    Hotrod: Anchor Mfg. makes some real nice cylinder brackets that are OSHA approved. It's always best to have your rig fitted to conformity, you never know who's going to be on a job site. Tower Mountain Products make "Tank Vises" for storage or horizontal transport. Inert gases can be hauled layed down. Acetylene should be stored and transported vertically. Oxygen, might as well stand it up next to the acetylene.

                    Regardless what you decide to outfit, keep in mind, the various safety "watch dogs," and codes: OSHA, MSHA, CGA & RMA Standards, ANSI, NIOSH, the list goes on.

                    It may be as something as "insignificant" as not wearing a "safety vest," and you could be cited for a safety violation,or worse yet, "booted" (steel toed) from a job.

                    Hope this helps

                    Dave
                    great point i forgot to mention that the law veries state to state. you can ask you local suppler or look it up on line.
                    TB 325
                    TB 302
                    dynasty 200sd
                    spoolmatic 30a/wc24
                    suitcase x-treme 12vs
                    miller 211
                    evolution rage 2

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                    • #11
                      Safety Gear

                      Rememeber that working over 6' REQUIRES a safety harness.

                      Mark Dennington designed and patented THE BEST safety harness for ironworkers on the planet.

                      Visit his website, and view his video demonstration.

                      They retail for around $255, but actually, they're priceless.

                      Dave
                      "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the insight lead lengths was going to be my next question. The term "Booted" ?? not wearing steal-toes or kicked off the job-site?? I read once in a old old welding book in the safety section that acetylene needs to rest upright for five minutes for every minute that it has been laying on its side. The purpose for that is because it is technically called dissolved acetylene and that is due to the fact that the tank is filled with a porous material that it is "dissolved into" to keep it stable. Generality that material is balsa wood or a foam material. That is why if you tap on the tank with a metal object is does not ring!!!! Any ways thanks for the replies

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                        • #13
                          Don't waste your time

                          Originally posted by hotrodbuilder View Post
                          Hello everyone!! I am new here but have been lurking for awhile. Anyways i am starting a moble welding service and have two options as far as a rig is concerned. The first is just using my daily driven Ford F-350, installing my Trailblazer 302 (ordering it next week) in the box, buying side boxes, and building a headache rack to hold cylinerds Ect. Ect. Or out fit my 40ft floor 45ft overall length enclosed tripple axel car trailer into a rig, and adding a living corters in the front?

                          I just bought a Dynasty 200dx tigrunner and have most everthing else i think i could need, but dont have a clue what i should carry with me?? What i am asking for i guess is a "must have list" of tools and equipment that i might overlook ?? Thanks

                          That is until you figure out what it is you are going to weld on in the first place.
                          Chances are until you establish yourself with whatever group of folks need your services you will be merely flapping in the wind. If you are planning to specialize in aluminum then the majority of the replies you've gotten will be useless.
                          What you REALLY need to do, is do the legwork you are gonna have to do anyway...go out and meet people to find out what they need.
                          Almost everything I started out with rig-wise got changed in less than a year.
                          I have been doing mobile aluminum for 12+ years now and find the market changing all the time so DO NOT waste your hard earned money making and rigging up only to find yourself flailing both financially and in capability.
                          I never need torches or come alongs or that sort of heavy duty stuff... but I could take and mount that Trailblazer and Dynasty and mount them on a skid and make a pretty decent living about anywhere with 50 ft of torch lead on the Dynasty.
                          Getting there quick and taking the money is where it is at....wait too long and they will find another way to eliminate you. If you have to drag a 40 ft trailer everywhere you go you have instantly eliminated 75% of the jobs out there. Not only would it be a ball and chain but it would look like you was going to "move in" and charge a huge minimum. And the truth is you would have to just to recoup expenses.
                          If you haven't made cards then you best get started also ....HTH

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                          • #14
                            Latley i have been doing S.S. and specializing in that could be a real possibility. Dragin my trailer around is probably not the way to go.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hotrodbuilder View Post
                              Hello everyone!! I am new here but have been lurking for awhile. Anyways i am starting a moble welding service and have two options as far as a rig is concerned. The first is just using my daily driven Ford F-350, installing my Trailblazer 302 (ordering it next week) in the box, buying side boxes, and building a headache rack to hold cylinerds Ect. Ect. Or out fit my 40ft floor 45ft overall length enclosed tripple axel car trailer into a rig, and adding a living corters in the front?

                              I just bought a Dynasty 200dx tigrunner and have most everthing else i think i could need, but dont have a clue what i should carry with me?? What i am asking for i guess is a "must have list" of tools and equipment that i might overlook ?? Thanks
                              You can keep it simple.
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