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  • #16
    Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
    I would buy a Riland inverter (www.rilandusa.com) long before an Econotig if I was doing much aluminum myself. Sure you can get by with buzzbox type technology but why would you want to when spending hard earned cash with making money in mind?? Just because it is a Miller doesn't make it something better than it is.
    Used...maybe. New....no way in H E L L!!!
    It is certainly not crap just outdated...sorta like buying a brand new computer with Windows 98
    I looked at the Riland link that you posted they sure do LOOK like cheap junk .Maybe you have never heard any bad things about them but I am sure there is plenty to hear.I also dont like the sales spiel in the ad that says capable of outperforming all the other brands and listing them by name. You get what you pay for in most cases.Mike

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    • #17
      Originally posted by crawdaddy View Post
      I looked at the Riland link that you posted they sure do LOOK like cheap junk .Maybe you have never heard any bad things about them but I am sure there is plenty to hear.I also dont like the sales spiel in the ad that says capable of outperforming all the other brands and listing them by name. You get what you pay for in most cases.Mike
      Over on Welding Web they have a bunch of guys that are really into them.
      If you really want the lowdown then go over and read some of those threads.
      It is interesting. You prolly are reading this on a chinese computer you know.
      It isn't that much different. I'm thinking Miller got their autoline tech from a chinese company they bought out called Powcon...now THAT is a chinky sounding name if I ever heard one.
      Now don't get me wrong here I think Miller is the BEST in the world but there are plenty of good machines on the rest of the planet.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
        THAT is a chinky sounding name if I ever heard one.
        CHINKY???!!!!! CHINKY???!!!
        UGH....MY NAME IS WONG???!!!!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bert View Post
          CHINKY???!!!!! CHINKY???!!!
          UGH....MY NAME IS WONG???!!!!!
          Well that explains A LOT!!!! Is that why you left NJ??
          You could now start your own import welder biz with a deceptive name like that.....WONG POW maybe

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          • #20
            Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
            Over on Welding Web they have a bunch of guys that are really into them.
            If you really want the lowdown then go over and read some of those threads.
            It is interesting. You prolly are reading this on a chinese computer you know.
            It isn't that much different. I'm thinking Miller got their autoline tech from a chinese company they bought out called Powcon...now THAT is a chinky sounding name if I ever heard one.
            Now don't get me wrong here I think Miller is the BEST in the world but there are plenty of good machines on the rest of the planet.
            Thanks for the info on the site.I didnt check out the machines but The forum is very good especially the layout/mathematics information .Thanks Mike

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            • #21
              Originally posted by down19992000
              Powcons were not chinese they were built in San Diego CA. I guess all the US submarines that had these on board in the late 70s and 80s thought the same thing what a chinky soundy name.
              OH! OOHHHH!!!! There goes that CHINKY CR@P AGAIN!!! OK FINE!!!!
              I'M GOING TO MAKE A BUNCH OF WELDERS...AND CALL THEM:

              WONG POW CON ME SO STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              They will be the STRONGEST WELDERS IN THE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!

              signed,
              bert WONG

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bert View Post
                OH! OOHHHH!!!! There goes that CHINKY CR@P AGAIN!!! OK FINE!!!!
                I'M GOING TO MAKE A BUNCH OF WELDERS...AND CALL THEM:

                WONG POW CON ME SO STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                They will be the STRONGEST WELDERS IN THE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!

                signed,
                bert WONG
                down19992000 was very gracious enough to pm me and apologize, not wanting to offend anyone, so he deleted his post! I didn't put any smilies in there 'cause I just wanted to freak him and FusionKing out!!! My bad, I didn't warn down19992000 about it I'm Chinese/Portuguese, so hey, I've been teased about the "wong" thing all my life!!! Just having fun with it

                Everyone, happy New Years, and may all of us be blessed with more work with better jobs, let our skills get better, and may all of us on this forum be 1 big happy family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEHAAAWWWWWW!!!!!!!

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                • #23
                  Those sub guys were probably thinking prisoner of war connection

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                  • #24
                    Bert:
                    Thanks for the public explanation. Sometimes dry wit gets lost in the typing.

                    Happy New Year!!!

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                    • #25
                      Dry wit

                      Craig, dry wit or not...don't worry, everybody knows that you are just
                      a butt wipe.........
                      oops sorry, butt wit

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                      • #26
                        cant we all just get along!!!

                        I just wanted to know about welders. I enjoy all of the advice and everyones opinion. Somewhere in all of this, we all got out of hand. Just think of what we all could do if we laid down our petty differences and opinions of this and that and tried to work together! I think that there are positives about every welder and negitives about every welder. It just depends on what is going to do the best job for you and your applications. I am American and believe in buying American every chance I get to save AMERICAN jobs, but I am not against getting information from others. Thanks for all of the posts and information.

                        Zeb

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by zkoobs1978 View Post
                          I just wanted to know about welders. I enjoy all of the advice and everyones opinion. Somewhere in all of this, we all got out of hand. Just think of what we all could do if we laid down our petty differences and opinions of this and that and tried to work together! I think that there are positives about every welder and negitives about every welder. It just depends on what is going to do the best job for you and your applications. I am American and believe in buying American every chance I get to save AMERICAN jobs, but I am not against getting information from others. Thanks for all of the posts and information.

                          Zeb
                          hehe....as far as the banter between the guys about Chinese vs American welders, they are just stating their opinions.....as far as me, I was just having fun, and letting everyone know so....Craig in Denver and I are friends,
                          so no harm, no foul....I'm SURE he'll get me back later!!!!!!!!!!!

                          Zeb, as for you, what you asked was 100% legit. Cool, What Fusion and everyone else said, that is just their opinion....I don't think anyone will hold a grudge no really......... Anyway, congrats to you for having a controversial thread
                          bert (WONG)

                          Generally a lot of Chinese stuff we buy is cr@p...I'll be the first to admit it. Although some people differ, saying if the manufacturing plant is in China and they build or make things to American standards, it's ok....I find that to be true by 10%. But it's amazing how many things are built in China, look in the back of my tools, and...........DOH!!!!! I thought I was buying AMERICAN!!!!
                          Anyway, I'm glad I buy Miller welders....Lincons are excellent also, but the Miller support in Hawaii is 3x better than Lincolns........I wouldn't want to buy some off-brand even if it's cheaper, only because service will be harder...........
                          bert
                          Last edited by Bert; 01-02-2009, 01:16 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Cool

                            Bert,

                            Not trying to start anything. I think its cool that we can joke, have fun and learn at the same time! Have a Happy New Year and be safe and productive!!!

                            Zeb

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by zkoobs1978 View Post
                              I just wanted to know about welders. I enjoy all of the advice and everyone's opinion. Somewhere in all of this, we all got out of hand. Just think of what we all could do if we laid down our petty differences and opinions of this and that and tried to work together! I think that there are positives about every welder and negatives about every welder. It just depends on what is going to do the best job for you and your applications. I am American and believe in buying American every chance I get to save AMERICAN jobs, but I am not against getting information from others. Thanks for all of the posts and information.

                              Zeb
                              What are you talking about??? Normally this thread would have sunk to the bottom of the page like a rock with only YOU bumping it back up from time to time. Instead several of us kept bumping it up from time to time.
                              When you start a thread and ask a question it takes on a life of it's own. It is your "job" to keep it back on topic, if you so please, if you did not get the info you were looking for.
                              If it did serve it's purpose, which I believe it did, then you have nothing to complain about. If the thread does keep coming back to the top after that then you have gained notoriety for starting a good thread and gained respect of all the membership here.
                              But when you come on back out of nowhere and admonish us for bantering about like any Internet forum you sound like a spoiled single child who doesn't know how to play with others.
                              As for us getting something done by "working together" whether you know it or not this is how it works and if you start reading back you will see that MILLER themselves do use this forum for feedback. We have changed there course of action in the past and I am sure in will continue. What do you think we're gonna do here??? Stop global warming??
                              As for what welder you need...Without a doubt you NEED a Dynasty 300 DX Tigrunner package But a Dynasty 200DX might get you by...after that it is only a matter of what you are willing to settle for. It not like you are re-inventing the wheel. If you go to the welding discussions thread there are probably only 500 or so threads on this very topic.
                              Pick your machine and rig your leads and get welding so we can get back to bantering already
                              Last edited by FusionKing; 01-02-2009, 07:09 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
                                What are you talking about??? Normally this thread would have sunk to the bottom of the page like a rock with only YOU bumping it back up from time to time. Instead several of us kept bumping it up from time to time.
                                When you start a thread and ask a question it takes on a life of it's own. It is your "job" to keep it back on topic, if you so please, if you did not get the info you were looking for.
                                If it did serve it's purpose, which I believe it did, then you have nothing to complain about. If the thread does keep coming back to the top after that then you have gained notoriety for starting a good thread and gained respect of all the membership here.
                                But when you come on back out of nowhere and admonish us for bantering about like any Internet forum you sound like a spoiled single child who doesn't know how to play with others.
                                As for us getting something done by "working together" whether you know it or not this is how it works and if you start reading back you will see that MILLER themselves do use this forum for feedback. We have changed there course of action in the past and I am sure in will continue. What do you think we're gonna do here??? Stop global warming??
                                As for what welder you need...Without a doubt you NEED a Dynasty 300 DX Tigrunner package But a Dynasty 200DX might get you by...after that it is only a matter of what you are willing to settle for. It not like you are re-inventing the wheel. If you go to the welding discussions thread there are probably only 500 or so threads on this very topic.
                                Pick your machine and rig your leads and get welding so we can get back to bantering already
                                hee hee....haw haw...HEE HEE...HAW HAW...HEE HEE...HAW HAW...HEE HEE...HAW HAW...HEE HEE...HAW HAW...!!!

                                I have GOT to go back on my medication

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