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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bulldog View Post
    WOW 400 to 800 ftlbs of torque! That's pretty good. That's in the range of what a stock Cummins puts down... Now how about we double that... Oh by the way what does one of those Subaru's weight? 2-3000 lbs. Hey how about we triple then ad 1000 lbs to that then hook a trailer that weights in at about 25000 pds. Lets see the last time I hit the dyno my truck made 684 hp and 1401 ftlbs of torque on just fuel no juice. (with a slipping clutch)Oh and by the way my truck is a dually and I run 35's. It will break the 4 back tires loose at 40 mph.
    I'll call PPG Monday to see what they say.
    Can I drop your name??? Maybe I'll get a better deal...
    Bulldog
    Bulldog,
    Everything is relative, the subaru might have less torque, and less weight, but id guess the gear sets are also a lot smaller. So to fairly compare, you would have to do a "unit-pressure" and "surface-speed" calculation for the gear set in question. You might find the power density transmitted through the subaru gear set higher then yours.
    Now stop and think about racing boats, 1200+ HP through a roughly 6" diameter "ring" gear. You want to talk to guys who can design a production gear set that handles incredible power density.....they are it. Not to mention they spend a lot of time at WOT...not cruising down the highway. Just some things to think about.

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    • #17
      Bulldog,
      Have you looked to see if someone offers a straight cut gear set for 6th gear? My friend rebuilds truck transmissions and he thought there was someone who offered one. He is going to take a look Monday and see if he can find out who. They would be a little nosier but would be a lot stronger.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Aerometalworker View Post
        Bulldog,
        Everything is relative, the subaru might have less torque, and less weight, but id guess the gear sets are also a lot smaller. So to fairly compare, you would have to do a "unit-pressure" and "surface-speed" calculation for the gear set in question. You might find the power density transmitted through the subaru gear set higher then yours.
        Now stop and think about racing boats, 1200+ HP through a roughly 6" diameter "ring" gear. You want to talk to guys who can design a production gear set that handles incredible power density.....they are it. Not to mention they spend a lot of time at WOT...not cruising down the highway. Just some things to think about.

        -Aaron
        Thanks Aaron I was going to mention that our gear sets are very small. Your tranny prob 3-5 times the size of mine. So it is all relative.
        As engnerdan said. Go staight tooth, but get dog engagement. It illiminate the syncro's. Only need to use the clutch in 1st or Reverse to get moving after that you just gas it between shifts. A little violent but one heck of a feeling. I hope someone makes a gearset for you. Have you tried any Diesel Truck Forums. I'm sure there are many of them out there.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bulldog View Post
          I'll take a look at that Bad. My problem is my truck is HEAVY and I haul HEAVY loads with the torque that my truck makes it's not hard to see why I take the teeth off the gears. The NV5600 is a very strong trans but when the torque gets over 1200 ftlbs over drive just can't take it. I'm hoping that this cyro deal works out. I just installed a DD clutch and it wont slip like the South Bend fe was. I should find out pretty soon if the new gears will hold up or not.
          See ya,
          Bulldog

          I hear ya... I used to to fairly heavy as well, (18000-20000)lbs with a Duramax. The south bend was slipping? I heard they were great a clutch, never used one though.. Anyway, good luck with it, hope it turns out well.
          Wish me luck too however, this season I'll be dropping the hammer another 1200 rpm higher...
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          • #20
            Hey guys,
            Aaron,
            I agree with you 100%. It's all relative I just found Boostins comments kinda funny so I wanted to clear things up for him a little. I have been talking to a guy that builds pulling transmission (all straight cut gears)but he only does 4 speed's. I thought about going that way and use a gear vendor overdrive unit. I'm not sure if the vendor would hold the power. The smart thing would be just cut the power back some.
            Hey BadOOSS what ya got in the DIRTY MAX. How much power ya puttin down? I have a good friend that makes 550 -600 and his truck is a 3/4 single wheel. His truck runs 12.50 -12.60 in the quarter. South Bend makes a great clutch but the fe is a single disk and is only rated for 550 hp. Peter though it may hold but no way. It will hold with the flux injectors and the Smarty but when I bring the TST on line and the turbo lights forget it. The clutch is a 3600 lb DD so chances are it will hold. Now how long will the new Cryoed gear last... That's the question.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bulldog View Post
              Hey guys,
              Aaron,
              I agree with you 100%. It's all relative I just found Boostins comments kinda funny so I wanted to clear things up for him a little. I have been talking to a guy that builds pulling transmission (all straight cut gears)but he only does 4 speed's. I thought about going that way and use a gear vendor overdrive unit. I'm not sure if the vendor would hold the power. The smart thing would be just cut the power back some.
              Hey BadOOSS what ya got in the DIRTY MAX. How much power ya puttin down? I have a good friend that makes 550 -600 and his truck is a 3/4 single wheel. His truck runs 12.50 -12.60 in the quarter. South Bend makes a great clutch but the fe is a single disk and is only rated for 550 hp. Peter though it may hold but no way. It will hold with the flux injectors and the Smarty but when I bring the TST on line and the turbo lights forget it. The clutch is a 3600 lb DD so chances are it will hold. Now how long will the new Cryoed gear last... That's the question.
              Topper
              Had a 05 Duramax/allison, it was basically stock, exhaust, intake, and an exhaust brake. Now I have a 6.0L Gasser 5 speed manual. Im looking for a Duramax/ZF6 6 speed Manual crew cab dually, need it to tow my car trailer... I wanted a dodge, but the quad cab is way too small for me. And mega cab is out since I need an 8 ft bed. Is your friend on the dieselplace.com I frequent there alot.
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