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  • Welding on a Ferari - Filler metal

    I have to weld what is called a signature badge on a Ferari which is on the fender near the winshield.

    Any recommendations on what filler to use.

    1100 series that is soft with a low melting point.

    4043

    5356

    I think 4043 would be my guess without knowing what aluminum body panels are made from.

    Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    you know what they say "When in Milan".

    I really have nothing helpful to add.
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    • #3
      welding on a Ferrari

      Portable,
      try this link to alcotec.
      http://www.alcotec.com/us/en/support/index.cfm

      pick the selection chart from the menu on the left.

      I would really try to find out what the alloy is for the body. The liability would scare me alot so be careful.

      good luck I would love to see how it comes out.

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      • #4
        Were the originals welded on? I'd be afraid of warpage, will you be able to 'work it back' after welding? I don't know a thing about Ferrari and restoration accuracy, could the piece be epoxied like so many badges on cars are today?
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        • #5
          The car is at the body shop being redone, As far as liability goes, Its only a fender and no it cant be epoxied.

          Since its not a structural part, Nor will it be anodized - 40/43 it is.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Portable Welder View Post
            The car is at the body shop being redone, As far as liability goes, Its only a fender and no it cant be epoxied.

            Since its not a structural part, Nor will it be anodized - 40/43 it is.
            Before you take the attitude of "its only a fender", check out these prices.
            http://www.ferrparts.com/search.php?...&submit=Search
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            • #7
              What is the vintage on the car?

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              • #8
                I've got $2,000,000.00 of liability coverage.

                I work on machines that cost over $ 200,000.00 all the time so a little fender is nothing to sweat over.

                I never asked what the vintage of the car was, I would guess not more than 15 years old.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Portable Welder View Post
                  I've got $2,000,000.00 of liability coverage.

                  I work on machines that cost over $ 200,000.00 all the time so a little fender is nothing to sweat over.

                  I never asked what the vintage of the car was, I would guess not more than 15 years old.
                  Portable welder sweats nothing,Same attiude as admweld.
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                  • #10
                    Worked on the Ferrari today and every thing turned out perfectly.

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                    • #11
                      I guess this means we don't get a photo?
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                      • #12
                        Ferrari fender badges are not welded to the vehicle. They have a post/nut installation, on a proper factory fender. Factory installed badges are also set into a 1mm recession on the fender, so give a slightly more flush appearance.

                        Genuine, original Ferrari parts will be installed like this, however there are some aftermarket versions which use a double-sided 3M tape.

                        Ricambi America shows the full exploded diagrams for most Ferraris parts on-line. An example of the badges is shown here:

                        http://www.ricambiamerica.com/parts_...=&V=diag&I=615


                        p.s. Newer cars are all aluminum bodied, and from 1999- have alumium structural frames.

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                        • #13
                          Ferrari Fan, I did not weld the badge to the fender I welded the indented pc that the badge sets inside of to the fender, The fender on the car was smooth so I cut the indented pc out of a damaged fender and put it in the existing cars fender.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Portable Welder View Post
                            Ferrari Fan, I did not weld the badge to the fender I welded the indented pc that the badge sets inside of to the fender, The fender on the car was smooth so I cut the indented pc out of a damaged fender and put it in the existing cars fender.
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                            • #15
                              Gawd I love this forum. Nice Job.

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