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    I have been reading some of the posts on the Miller 180 vs the Hobart 210. Leaning toward the Hobart due to the higher top end. Going to purchase a spoolgun when I order the welder. Here's is my question, both of the spoolguns the Miller spoolmate 100 and the Hobart DP-3035 both look the same. Is one better than the other. Which one is the beefer of the two.
    Miller Dialarc HF
    Millermatic 180
    Warner Swasey #3
    Burr King Grinders

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    The biggest difference is the way they hook up. The 3035 hooks up via a lug for the hot wire, the hose and the pin connector on the front panel. The spoolmate 100 hooks up where the gun was. You have to remove the whole gun assembly and replace it with the spoolgun hookup. Prob about the same amount of time for both to hook up. The biggest difference is you can leave the 3035 hooked up all the time. The guns are almost the same, and most of the parts numbers match each one.
    The Iron Man 210 should have the lug like my MM185.
    The Handler 210 you have to remove the gun. Forgot there are two 210's...Bob
    Last edited by aametalmaster; 05-19-2008, 06:26 PM.
    Bob Wright

    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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    • #3
      I wonder why the Hobart spoolgun costs more? if both appear to be just about the same gun..
      Miller Dialarc HF
      Millermatic 180
      Warner Swasey #3
      Burr King Grinders

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      • #4
        I wondered the same thing since i paid over 400 bucks for mine 8 years ago...Bob
        Bob Wright

        Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
        http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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        • #5
          My Hobart DP-3035 plugs into the gun port on the HH210; they have to be swapped completely. I think it's the Spoolmate 3035 that is different on machines like the MM210/212.

          EDIT: I missed your edit, oh well, it's clarified now...

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          • #6
            Yup. You put it in better words Mac. I did forget there was 2 welders with the same number...Bob
            Bob Wright

            Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
            http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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            • #7
              Took the time to really read the difference between the Miller and Hobart spoolguns. Looks like the Miller comes with a 12 foot gun and Hobart comes with a 20 foot gun. Thats a pretty big difference in length. Still leaning toward the Hobart 210 Handler with a spoolgun. Looks like more for the money..Any thoughts...
              Last edited by gearhead; 05-20-2008, 05:34 AM. Reason: add information
              Miller Dialarc HF
              Millermatic 180
              Warner Swasey #3
              Burr King Grinders

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              • #8
                Something's not right there, me thinks. Check again. The Miller Spoolmate 3035 should be a 20-footer, just like the Hobart, I think. The bigger Miller Spoolmatic guns are available in 15- or 30-footers.

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                • #9
                  Mac, Spoolmate 100, not 3035. Smaller, cheaper gun.


                  I'd go with the HH210/sg. Go for the biggest unit you can afford. You can turn down the 210, but you can't turn up the 180 over...180.
                  Don


                  '06 Trailblazer 302
                  '06 12RC feeder
                  Super S-32P feeder

                  HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                  Esab Multimaster 260
                  Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gearhead View Post
                    Still leaning toward the Hobart 210 Handler with a spoolgun. Looks like more for the money..Any thoughts...
                    That would have my vote...Bob
                    Bob Wright

                    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
                    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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                    • #11
                      I went into the local Miller shop and talked to the sales rep about the Miller 180 VS Hobart 210. The sale rep stated I should go with the Miller do to heavier internals. We talked about the possible need for the 210's extra power and I was told the 180 was enough to do all the jobs the 210 was capable of doing. Still think the 210 is the way to go on this, just as it was stated you can turn a 210 down if you need to, but you can't turn a 180 up...
                      Miller Dialarc HF
                      Millermatic 180
                      Warner Swasey #3
                      Burr King Grinders

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gearhead View Post
                        I went into the local Miller shop and talked to the sales rep about the Miller 180 VS Hobart 210. The sale rep stated I should go with the Miller do to heavier internals. We talked about the possible need for the 210's extra power and I was told the 180 was enough to do all the jobs the 210 was capable of doing. Still think the 210 is the way to go on this, just as it was stated you can turn a 210 down if you need to, but you can't turn a 180 up...
                        The LWS may be saying that because he does not sell Hobart Handler 210 welders. Millers will have better drive (all metal) than Hobarts. I'd rather have more power of the Hobart Handler 210. Also, have 7 voltage taps on the HH210 will be easier to dial in the arc.
                        Millermatic Passport Plus
                        Millermatic 200

                        Millermatic 350P with Python
                        XMT 304 /w S-64 feeder and 12VS
                        Dynasty 300 DX
                        Thermal Arc 400 MST
                        Victor O/A
                        Premier Power Welder for my trail junk.

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                        • #13
                          I have used my HH210 on some very heavy stuff and had no issues. It will just about keep up with the MM210 and will weld smoother in most cases. I ran my MM and HH side by side. When I want to weld something, I'll usually reach for the HH first...sorry Miller. So, since this HH is amost keeping up with the MM210, I really doubt the MM180 would keep up with the HH. If you get the HH, you will not be unhappy.
                          Don


                          '06 Trailblazer 302
                          '06 12RC feeder
                          Super S-32P feeder

                          HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                          Esab Multimaster 260
                          Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DDA52 View Post
                            Mac, Spoolmate 100, not 3035. Smaller, cheaper gun...
                            Thanks, Don. I would not have expected that. The nice thing about a spoolgun is the ability to get further out from the machine, in addition to its aluminum capabilities, but if the price is right, for those that need what it CAN still do, I suppose it fills a narrow niche.

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                            • #15
                              Smaller as in shorter...I should have said shorter. IIRC, the gun head is much the same if not the same.
                              Don


                              '06 Trailblazer 302
                              '06 12RC feeder
                              Super S-32P feeder

                              HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                              Esab Multimaster 260
                              Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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