Tig Cooler Motor Question

[Restomod]

The majority of the tig water coolers use a similar motor that has a standard carbonator fitting on one end and an external shaft for a fan on the other end of the motor.

Can someone please give me the Mfr., Model & Frame # of the motor in their water cooler.

Thanks in advance.

[fun4now]

if you do a serch on e-bay you can find several motor options in bolth new and remanufactured.also arc-zone caries new and referb. pumps .
http://www.arc-zone.com/catalog/web_store.cgi?page=pump.html&cart_id=6892375_53099

arc-zone will have everything you will need to build your own if thats where you aer going. the part # for the miller pump is on thei arc-zone page (just fallow the link)
happy building :)

[CarmenElectrode]

Can someone please give me the Mfr., Model & Frame # of the motor in their water cooler.

We sell a replacement motor, part no. 5514:

Motor, 1/3 HP. 115-230VAC -- 60/50HZ 1425/1725 RPM Single Phase. For Bernard and ITW Cooling Systems Water Coolers. -- CE Certified --
$197.85

http://www.arc-zone.com/catalog/web_store.cgi?page=water2.html

HTH :)

[fun4now]

do you work for arc-zone ???

if so cool. i only used you guys a few times but have called for info and addvice and been real happy with the results on all ocations. keep up the good work, and nice to have rep. here to help us find the harder to find stuff. :cool:

[CarmenElectrode]

do you work for arc-zone ???

if so cool. i only used you guys a few times but have called for info and addvice and been real happy with the results on all ocations. keep up the good work, and nice to have rep. here to help us find the harder to find stuff. :cool:

Yes, I do (I include the link on my sig line). It's a great place to work, lots of cool people... I like to be up front about it, so you'll know when * I * recommend one of our products, I am completely biased!! ;)

[Sundown]

Yes, I do (I include the link on my sig line). It's a great place to work, lots of cool people... I like to be up front about it, so you'll know when * I * recommend one of our products, I am completely biased!! ;)

Ahh Yes, complete honesty...I love it :D ;)

[KB Fabrications]

Yes, I do (I include the link on my sig line). It's a great place to work, lots of cool people... I like to be up front about it, so you'll know when * I * recommend one of our products, I am completely biased!! ;)
This seems to have been going on for a little while now and I would like a little clarification. I thought that this forum was not supposed to be a place where a "business" could advertise their products for sale. I have followed Carmens posts for a while now and while I believe she ( :rolleyes: ) walks the line a little, I wonder where this leaves others in relation to trying to sell on the forum. I personally don't mind helpful information but I am beginning to see a pattern with ArcZone's posts in relation to selling product. Does anyone else have any concerns about this. Again, I just see this as an issue in relation to other companies coming on the forum and doing the same thing. If it is OK for ArcZone, then it should be OK for anyone else?

[fun4now]

i think it realy depends on the way its done. as in this case i sent him to arc-zone , not the arc-zone guy. also if you are looking for something and ask for it i think its ok. he is not just putting adds in all the time that we all have to start weeding through to get to the isues of the board. if done with respect for the forem i dont see it as a problem but more of an asset. lots of times people ask about spacific products and where they can be found as well as recomendations as to there werth. quick disconects for instance has been asked about befor and at that time i had just receved my monthly news letter from arc-zone and rememberd them as mentioning they just started carrying them so i sent that person there, i dont work for arc-zone nore did i prifit from sending him there it was just done to give him a suply option. i think under that or this type of situation whether it be arc-zone or anothere member sending them to what they asked for is fine. if the arc-zone guy just came on here and took down all our personal info and started sending add's to our e-mails or address'es it would be way out of line. weathere others will start becoming pushy about sails here because this arc-zone persone got away with saying "we carrie that here" is unknown . i can only hope that should that happen Miller/Andy would pull them from the forem.
there are lots of new welders here that realy need help finding stuff as well as some long time welders looking for new or hard to find products that will only benefit from a sails rep. being here if he is respectfull of the forem. i think the fact he is open about being from arc-zone is admerable, as he could give the same advice and never tell us he works for them. in this case though i think my link was better than the arc-zone guys as he sent him to the coolers page rather than to the pump page :p so i win LOL

long and short i think it all depends on there attitude not where they work that realy determins there werth on this forem.

[imported_frank865]

This seems to have been going on for a little while now and I would like a little clarification. I thought that this forum was not supposed to be a place where a "business" could advertise their products for sale. I have followed Carmens posts for a while now and while I believe she ( :rolleyes: ) walks the line a little, I wonder where this leaves others in relation to trying to sell on the forum. I personally don't mind helpful information but I am beginning to see a pattern with ArcZone's posts in relation to selling product. Does anyone else have any concerns about this. Again, I just see this as an issue in relation to other companies coming on the forum and doing the same thing. If it is OK for ArcZone, then it should be OK for anyone else?
I don't see a problem here...Carmen Electrode never tries to sell anything, she only answers a question when asked, & I think it's a positive thing to have her on the forum. If, in the future, another business becomes a PITA, THEN deal with them in an appropriate manner. Don't try to ban Arc-Zone's representative, just because someone else MIGHT do something wrong!
I'm glad Carmen Electrode is here & hope she stays!

[Fishy Jim]

Frank is right. A-Z is not hiding behind some facade of an average joe (or advanced weldor) and bumping people towards their e-store, but rather has a unique user name and makes no attempt to hide that they're a sales rep. They (since I have a feeling this is more than one person accessing the account) have done well to be informative, and un-obnoxious.

I think cronatronmoron could learn a lot from "Carmen"s approach to positive-presence merchandising in the virtual marketplace. I was too lazy to go look for a price on a torch I might replace, and Carmen got the link when asked. I was actually just hoping for a better price than their regular list, but what can you expect right? :) 'Cron' has hardly even replied to a direct question, but if there's ANYTHING mentioned that he sells, you best believe he will post up with info that he's got it. :rolleyes:

So, I do think Andy has exercised good judgement in allowing the A-Z folks to keep an open presence here.

[Sundown]

I don't see any reason to exclude anyone unless they break the rules that miller has set down for the operation of this site.

[KB Fabrications]

As I said in my earlier post, I think AZ walks the line, and actually tries not to cross it. My original concern was regarding the precedent that that sets in relation to others who might want to come and do the same. You are right, we could deal with that stuff on a case by case basis and I am fine with that. I was also interested in whether it was just me or did anyone else have concerns that mirrored mine.

My only REAL concern is for the integrity of this forum, nothing else. I have seen some recent tomfoolery over on some of the other boards that has made me a little weary. I REALLY like it here and just feel like checking in about stuff when something raises a red flag for me. If my concerns are unwarranted, I would actually welcome that. :o

FWIW, I have nothing against ArcZone at all (I have ordered from them and will again).

[Fishy Jim]

No need to be defensive KB, you're more than entitled to thinking they're out of line if that's how you feel. You'd just be wrong. (j/k!) :)

I think its admirable that you wanted to question this openly.

[Sundown]

As I said in my earlier post, I think AZ walks the line, and actually tries not to cross it. My original concern was regarding the precedent that that sets in relation to others who might want to come and do the same. You are right, we could deal with that stuff on a case by case basis and I am fine with that. I was also interested in whether it was just me or did anyone else have concerns that mirrored mine.

My only REAL concern is for the integrity of this forum, nothing else. I have seen some recent tomfoolery over on some of the other boards that has made me a little weary. I REALLY like it here and just feel like checking in about stuff when something raises a red flag for me. If my concerns are unwarranted, I would actually welcome that. :o

FWIW, I have nothing against ArcZone at all (I have ordered from them and will again).

Kevin,

I agree, and since Miller & Esp. Hobart have left a lot of the maintenance of these sites to those who are members, it is partally up to us to make sure these valuable resources are keep as intended. There is a section in the Terms of use that would cover this, perhaps all should read it instead of just saying "I Agree" and posting whatever they want. I am not pointing at anyone, just trying to follow the rules, be helpful when I can, and mostly learn from those many members who know much more than I do.

[KB Fabrications]

Kevin,

I agree, and since Miller & Esp. Hobart have left a lot of the maintenance of these sites to those who are members, it is partally up to us to make sure these valuable resources are keep as intended. There is a section in the Terms of use that would cover this, perhaps all should read it instead of just saying "I Agree" and posting whatever they want. I am not pointing at anyone, just trying to follow the rules, be helpful when I can, and mostly learn from those many members who know much more than I do.

Here is what part of the terms of use state (I have bolded the provision in question)

"Use Of The Miller Electric Web Site: You agree to use the Miller Electric Web Site only for lawful purposes:

(a) Specifically you agree not to do any of the following: (1) upload to or transmit on the Miller Electric Web Site any defamatory, indecent, obscene, harassing, violent or otherwise objectionable material, or any material that is, or may be, protected by copyright, without permission from the copyright owner; (2) use the Miller Electric Web Site to violate the legal rights (including the rights of publicity and privacy) of others or to violate the laws of any jurisdiction; (3) intercept or attempt to intercept electronic mail not intended for you; (4) misrepresent an affiliation with any person or organization; (5) upload to or transmit on the Miller Electric Web Site any advertisements or solicitations of business; (6) restrict or inhibit use of the Miller Electric Web Site by others; (7) upload or otherwise transmit files that contain a virus or corrupted data; (8) collect information about others (including e-mail addresses) without their consent; (9) download a file or software or include in a message any software, files or links that you know, or have reason to believe, cannot be distributed legally over the Miller Electric Web Site or that you have a contractual obligation to keep confidential (notwithstanding its availability on the Miller Electric Web Site); (10) post "spam," transmit chain letters or engage in other similar activities; or (11) engage in any other conduct that restricts or inhibits anyone's use or enjoyment of the Miller Electric Web Site, or which, as determined by Miller Electric, may harm Miller Electric or users of the Miller Electric Web Site or expose them to liability."


This was, and remains, my only concern. I never wanted Carmen to be banned or leave, I just wanted to see if my concerns were valid. Once again, my concern is simply the precedent that could potentially be set here regarding others coming and doing the same thing. I am sorry If I offended anyone.

[KB Fabrications]

We sell a replacement motor, part no. 5514:

Motor, 1/3 HP. 115-230VAC -- 60/50HZ 1425/1725 RPM Single Phase. For Bernard and ITW Cooling Systems Water Coolers. -- CE Certified --
$197.85

http://www.arc-zone.com/catalog/web_store.cgi?page=water2.html

HTH :)

And so there is no confusion, this was the specific post that initiated my first response.

[Fishy Jim]

No offence taken (and hopefully none delivered in my jesting).

Dayton Motor is probably discontinuing their carbonator motors (reason for the blow-out pricing) - they lack the tail shaft for mounting a fan, but they're only 40 bucks at Grainger's with a one year exchange warranty. Normal price on those is $75!

You can buy a *****in fan for $160. :eek: (difference before shipping from the A-Z price)

[fun4now]

i dont think solicitations of business is what happend here.

she (asuming the she part) was just doing the same thing i was "directing him to what he asked for" if she had started posting sails for a cooler without being asked it would be different. i see your point i just think in this case its not soliciting if you are helping some one find what they asked for.if i was looking for a dyn200 on line at a good price and she started giveing me links to an esab or lincon because she had them on sail it would be diffferent, but at the same time we often recomend the TA-185 as an option in the dyn200 VS the synco 180 debate. so is that ok because i dont work for anyone???? :confused: i think any time you give a link to what some one is looking for that is a positive thing. she is doing a fine jobe of staying on the right side of the line and we cant condem her for what others may do. it realy needs to be addressed on a case by case base's and in this case i think she is doing fine.

[CarmenElectrode]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the support.. . I certainly don't mean to cross the line, and try very hard not to. I very much enjoy this forum myself and have learned tons of information from you all.

The concerns you raise are the very reason why I include my Company link with my signature, so that everyone knows where I'm coming from and who I am. Besides, we all have to work somewhere! :)

[Sundown]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the support.. . I certainly don't mean to cross the line, and try very hard not to. I very much enjoy this forum myself and have learned tons of information from you all.

The concerns you raise are the very reason why I include my Company link with my signature, so that everyone knows where I'm coming from and who I am. Besides, we all have to work somewhere! :)

Does working in your garage for no money count :o ;) :)

[imported_frank865]

Does working in your garage for no money count :o ;) :)
Sure it counts!!!! I worked in mine all day today for no money :eek: :( !!!

[fun4now]

i've had that job for 4 1/2 years now. :eek: MAN DO I NEED A RAISE!!!! :(